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Rivr Luzade
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Posted - 2015.04.28 11:57:36 -
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I still see all the bookmarks in the Universe view. This is ridiculously inefficient and cluttered! If I want to know where I have bookmarks on a galaxy wide view, I activate that setting in the old map. I do not need to know all the time where I have bookmarks in the universe view. However, I do need to know all the time where I have bookmarks in the star system view. With the new map, you basically clutter my map with useless information all the time or I have to do several additional, completely unnecessary clicks to turn bookmarks on and off every time I open the star system view. I must say I am impressed by that level of ignorance. 
This ridiculously strong inertia when you scroll is still present and it is still making it a excruciating pain to do anything on the map, let alone scan things with probes.
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Rivr Luzade
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Posted - 2015.04.28 12:39:18 -
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I have nearly 3k bookmarks and that's still a low number. My entire map is covered in pin needles. -.-
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Rivr Luzade
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Posted - 2015.04.28 13:00:47 -
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Natya Mebelle wrote:While you can deselect them in the header filter, I still think it would be a good idea to have a two-way selection filter.
Like... checkboxes for system map and world map. That would make them only appear in system map, so once you are zoomed in close enough.
This is exactly what I do not want to do. I want it back like in the old map. I do not want to have to uncheck them when I scroll into the universe map and activate them again when I scroll into the system view. This is bonkers. A two-way selection could work but in my opinion, the old map's setting is still superior to that.
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Rivr Luzade
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Posted - 2015.04.28 13:05:10 -
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The stacking of celestials and not sufficiently deep enough zoom-in is another problem (as already mentioned by others). In the old map, I can zoom in on a planet and see all the moon orbits around that planet. This way, I can dscan down POS or ships on that planet. This is not possible in the new map and absolutely needs to be made possible again.
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Rivr Luzade
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Posted - 2015.04.28 14:53:49 -
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JohnMonty wrote:When I first loaded up the map it was a mess as I have bookmarks everywhere, which I need for my role in EVE. The only way I can use the map is if I turn the bookmarks off What a mess
Bookmarks Online - the use of this bookmark madness doesn't confide in me. It doesn't only cover all the stars and the actual information that I seek to see, it is also hard to hit the right ones. The old system was way better in that regard.
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Rivr Luzade
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Posted - 2015.04.28 15:01:51 -
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Natya Mebelle wrote:Rivr Luzade wrote:This is exactly what I do not want to do. I want it back like in the old map. I do not want to have to uncheck them when I scroll into the universe map and activate them again when I scroll into the system view. This is bonkers. A two-way selection could work but in my opinion, the old map's setting is still superior to that. I know, that's why I said so in my second part c: But the thing is, the old map was separated into two different layers. So there was not even an option in the universe map to begin with. This new one is a unified layer and I don't think they will go back to that. I also don't see why they should go back to that, it's a good idea. The transition just needs to be improved, that's all.
I could not care less for CCP's intentions. They turn the map into a worse system to use than it currently is. If they cannot figure out how to get these formerly separate layers properly transfered over into their new system, which they impose on us sooner than later, they should scrap it and stick with the old system. They remove essential functionality from the map with the current iteration of the new map, they make it harder to do things with the new map compared to the current system and the fancy new looks hold less information accuracy than the old system. I'm not someone who usually is against new fancy stuff and eyecandy, but I insist on that this does not go at the expense of functionality and usability. This bookmark madness, to name only one example, perfectly demonstrates the outrageously bad implementation of the system.
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Rivr Luzade
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Posted - 2015.04.28 16:25:05 -
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Natya Mebelle wrote:Trust me, I do not like parts of the new map and that is why I wrote pages of pages to help improving things. Just like you do c: No reason for us to get upset at each other, instead we continue to bring up good points in a reasonable manner.
If it sounded like I was upset at you, this is not the case. The one and only group I am upset with is CCP. They have implemented barely anything from previous feedback, skipped most the suggestions and just fixed some bits and pieces. This thing is going to made mandatory in the next patch in whatever state it is in, just like the industry interface which still lacks functionality and has bugs (like column sorting transferring over between different activity settings in the jobs tab (when I select History and sort the entries in the End Date column, all the entries are also sorted by the End Date column in the All Active Jobs setting. Completely pointless and only one example.) Thus, I have profound doubts that CCP is doing their best to make this map disaster a more or less functional system.
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Rivr Luzade
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Posted - 2015.04.28 16:38:07 -
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Then they should rethink their deadlines. Wasn't it CCP Seagull herself who boastfully announced that their new, 5 weeks release cadence would allow them more flexibility and to release stuff in between bigger releases? So far, I have not seen any benefit from that (Ok, that they didn't release the industry changes as planned shortly after the last years fanfest was good, considering how poor it was still months later). They also do not really have the manpower for more people on that project. They need everyone on Sovereignty because this must not be a poor performance.
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Rivr Luzade
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Posted - 2015.04.29 11:09:15 -
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That was quicker than even I had feared. Wonderful that new players by default will get thrown into the mess that the new map currently is. Props, CCP.
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Rivr Luzade
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Posted - 2015.04.29 16:37:53 -
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Where in the new map can I turn on that I only -- and clearly -- see the name of the selected region? The old map gives me the opportunity to show all region names, adjacent to the current selected region or only selected region. I want that back if it is not there.
Also, the region names are too small. They need to be a bit bigger and more pronounced.
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Rivr Luzade
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Posted - 2015.06.03 20:19:56 -
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I don't know if you messed something new up or not with Carnyx, but now my map shows no lines at all when I have "Show only selected" active. I do (not) appreciate your experimenting around, but a fix is in order.
And this excruciating scroll inertia is still there.
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